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		<title>The Saints, Vaccaro and My Ambivalence</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Laxman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t think Vaccaro is a good football player. It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t think he is the best safety in this year&#8217;s draft. It&#8217;s that I&#8217;m a believer in pass rush making the back end look better and not vice versa. Kenny Vaccaro is a versatile safety who can also play [...]</p><p><a href="http://whodatdish.com/2013/04/26/the-saints-vaccaro-and-my-ambivalence/">The Saints, Vaccaro and My Ambivalence</a> - <a href="http://whodatdish.com">Who Dat Dish</a> - <a href="http://whodatdish.com">Who Dat Dish - A New Orleans Saints Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/15/files/2013/04/vaccaro-saints.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-28271" title="Kenny Vaccaro" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/15/files/2013/04/vaccaro-saints-300x168.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="168" /></a>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t think Vaccaro is a good football player. It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t think he is the best safety in this year&#8217;s draft. It&#8217;s that I&#8217;m a believer in pass rush making the back end look better and not vice versa. Kenny Vaccaro is a versatile safety who can also play in the nickel corner role, has solid fundamentals and is a tackling machine (something the woeful Saints defense lacks). <a href="http://www.neworleanssaints.com/news-and-events/article-1/Sean-Payton-Talks-About-Drafting-S-Kenny-Vaccaro/a57571f3-fba7-42e1-84d9-46f4ffb782b8">According to Payton</a>, Vaccaro is the player that the Saints draft team was enamored with.</p>
<p>Jones, Ogletree, Williams and Floyd were all still on the board at the Saints&#8217; pick and that&#8217;s the only reason that I&#8217;m not fully behind this pick. Honestly, it&#8217;s just Jones. Anyone with eyes could see that he was a dominant force at outside linebacker for Georgia, not to mention that he was a constant impact player and leader for them. And now he replaces James Harrison in Pittsburgh on a Dick LeBeau run defense. Great. The flip side of that is the rumblings heard last night that if we&#8217;d taken Jones, the Steelers were going to take Vaccaro.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, and let it be noted that I only speak for myself. I think Vaccaro is going to be a good fit for this team, has shown what he can do at the college level and was a safe pick considering the lack of first round talent in this year&#8217;s draft. (Anyone really, really peeved right now that we don&#8217;t have a 2nd rounder tonight? Anyone? We should all just move on, right?) Taking into consideration the likelihood that Roman Harper is going to be cut after this year (or as some fans think, as early as training camp), Vaccaro may well have been the smartest pick possible and I&#8217;m just an impatient imbecile who likes seeing the Saints defense harass the quarterback.</p>
<p>The more I <a href="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/futures/2012/futures-texas-fs-kenny-vacarro">read</a> on Vaccaro, the more I like him as a Saint and think he will make this defense better. You probably will too.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/15/files/2013/04/fear-the-beard.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-28272" title="fear the beard" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/15/files/2013/04/fear-the-beard.jpg" alt="" width="197" height="256" /></a>Now, back to that whole pass rush thing. Junior Galette and Martez Wilson were giving each other bro-hugs last night when the pick came in. Galette tweeted as much, in his own interesting language, last night. </span><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Can you blame them? I&#8217;ve been on the Galette train since he was at Temple and couldn&#8217;t believe it when he went undrafted. Neither could he, and he has elevated his game since signing with the Saints and looks to be ready for 1,000+ snaps this year. If you multiply his and Wilson&#8217;s production from their limited snaps (which, yes, I know is totally unscientific) they look ready to be the game changing playmakers this defense needs. Or so I pray.</span></p>
<p>So, day two is here. What are the Saints going to do? What&#8217;s up with Chris Ivory to the Jets? Is there any possibility that he garners a 2nd rounder with a swap of some late round picks or future picks?</p>
<p>Here is what I&#8217;d consider a decent list of the <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/22140251/nfl-draft-best-prospects-available-after-day-one">best 40 players left on the board.</a> Of those 40, I&#8217;d say 7 are pass rushers that the Saints would consider drafting. Tank Carradine, Margus Hunt, Damontre Moore, Alex Okafor, Jamie Collins, Khaseem Greene and Sam Montgomrey are those seven guys. The only problem being the lack of a 2nd round pick. Rounds two and three are where the talent really seems to lie in this draft, as Mickey Loomis stated last week when saying that there weren&#8217;t more than 15 players on their draft board with a first round grade, while having 50+ guys graded in the second. Yeah, the second.</p>
<p>As it stands right now, I know nothing. It&#8217;s nearly impossible to give the Saints a grade on the first round pick until the draft has concluded. If we somehow manage to come out of this draft with depth and/or competition at OLB, DL, OT, and a luxury offensive player, I&#8217;ll be okay with the way things played out. But until it&#8217;s over, I am going to remain ambivalent. I don&#8217;t see any other option.</p>
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		<title>Trade Down From 15 and Still Draft a Pass Rusher?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Laxman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>First things first: I know that Mickey Loomis drafts BPA and has no history of trading back, but wouldn&#8217;t this be the kind of year to do something a little different? Shake things up a little? &#160; The draft is all about value and we won&#8217;t know who, if anyone, values our pick until the [...]</p><p><a href="http://whodatdish.com/2013/04/16/trade-down-from-15-and-still-draft-a-pass-rusher/">Trade Down From 15 and Still Draft a Pass Rusher?</a> - <a href="http://whodatdish.com">Who Dat Dish</a> - <a href="http://whodatdish.com">Who Dat Dish - A New Orleans Saints Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_27973" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 376px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/15/files/2013/04/6704548.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-27973" title="NCAA Football: Southern Mississippi at Rice" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/15/files/2013/04/6704548.jpg" alt="" width="366" height="550" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Oct 27, 2012; Houston, TX, USA; Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles defensive lineman Jamie Collins (8) prepares for a game against the Rice Owls at Rice Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Brett Davis-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>First things first: I know that Mickey Loomis drafts BPA and has no history of trading back, but wouldn&#8217;t this be the kind of year to do something a little different? Shake things up a little?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The draft is all about value and we won&#8217;t know who, if anyone, values our pick until the draft starts playing itself out. <a href="http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php">Here</a> is a link to the NFL draft value chart. I&#8217;m not big on predicting draft day trade scenarios but there are quite a few teams out there with a plethora of picks this year. And who knows, maybe one of those teams wants #15.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what would we do if we traded back out of #15 into the late first or even out of the first altogether?</p>
<p>Well, if we were to trade into the second, <a href="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=91060&amp;draftyear=2013&amp;genpos=OLB">This guy will be as good as whoever&#8217;s there at 15.</a> Sure he doesn&#8217;t have the flash and the hype surrounding him that Jones, Mingo, Jordan, et al have, but this man can play. <a href="http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/player/664/1026075/tackleforloss/split.html">10 sacks and 20 TFL last year.</a> Those numbers are right up there with all the lead dogs in this draft, but you don&#8217;t hear much about Collins from pretty much anyone. The good news is the Saints are in a trade down to the second kind of situation. (If there is a partner, that is.)</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This year&#8217;s draft is so loaded with defensive play makers that it&#8217;s a little ridiculous. Offense, not so much. Those poor teams in need of a quarterback might as well pick one up off the street rather than overdraft this group of late-rounders. To be quite clear on this, I do not care what position the Saints draft so long as it&#8217;s a guy who can get after the friggin quarterback.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Seems that I&#8217;m hearing a lot of this new mindset:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We picked up Butler and gave Galette a long-term deal, with Wilson in the mix we don&#8217;t need to get a pass rusher with our first.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And upon hearing that, those who remember watching the Dome Patrol literally abuse opposing offenses think to themselves:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Well, shucks. These guys must be right. We picked up one of Ryan&#8217;s guys who&#8217;s an average player and have two unknowns with high ceilings&#8230;might as well consider ourselves set in the pass rushing department and drat Drew&#8217;s future replacement or a wide receiver at 15 and call it a day.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I just don&#8217;t buy that anyone on this team&#8217;s defense is 100% safe in their starting role right now besides Cam Jordan and Curtis Lofton. And nor should they be. You all saw what they did last year. They all blew it on a rather consistent basis and didn&#8217;t even resemble an NFL defense at times. That 41-0 shutout of the Bucs being their stand out performance of the year.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Be it a 5-tech defensive end or a WOLB, a hard hitting safety, etc., that&#8217;s where the Saints&#8217; focus should be. Defense. Get a few guys who can tackle and I&#8217;ll be happy.</p>
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		<title>No Matter What Happens, People Will Still Be Pissed. Period. Draft Time!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Laxman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So, it&#8217;s April. Draft time. There&#8217;s a plethora of arguments gong around as to what exactly it is that the Saints need. There should be no argument. It&#8217;s obvious. We need defense. We&#8217;ve had one of the best offenses in the league since Payton got here. Even had a damn good one last year. (Minus the dropsies from [...]</p><p><a href="http://whodatdish.com/2013/04/03/no-matter-what-happens-people-will-still-be-pissed-period-draft-time/">No Matter What Happens, People Will Still Be Pissed. Period. Draft Time!</a> - <a href="http://whodatdish.com">Who Dat Dish</a> - <a href="http://whodatdish.com">Who Dat Dish - A New Orleans Saints Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">So, it&#8217;s April. Draft time. There&#8217;s a plethora of arguments gong around as to what exactly it is that the Saints </span><strong style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">need</strong><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">. There should be no argument. It&#8217;s obvious. We </span><strong style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">need</strong><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"> defense. We&#8217;ve had one of the best offenses in the league since Payton got here. Even had a damn good one last year. (Minus the dropsies from Colston and Graham, Joe Morgan not catching til week 10, and some of the ugliest, soul crushing interceptions in some of the biggest games of the year from Drew Brees, that offense </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">MAY</span><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"> have been able to make some noise in the playoffs despite the defenseless defense.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Welp, time to turn the page. You all know what has already gone down so far this off-season with the Ryan hiring and the free agent acquisitions so I&#8217;m not going over them again. We&#8217;re going to take a look at the draft and see what&#8217;s what with who, what, where and why we could or would draft someone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not some draft guru, so I use the regular sites out there just like you guys, therefore you may have read some of the things I post.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">JARVIS JONES</span></strong></p>
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</span></strong><strong>My take</strong>: Saw him play quite a bit this year because he&#8217;s in the SEC. He was obviously their best defensive player on the field. Didn&#8217;t look that big to me, but sure looked good getting after the quarterback or making people pay. It&#8217;s been reported that he&#8217;s not a &#8220;workout guy&#8221; and it kind of shows just but the way he looks on the field. You know what he does look like though? A god damn football player. Personally, I couldn&#8217;t care less how many reps on the bench he can do or how fast he can run forty yards and you know why? Absolutely none of that matters while the game is being played. Dude is a hell of a pass rusher, not scared to take on runners head-on, and straight up looks good out there. Period. (Minus the jersey number. Always hate seeing things like defensive linemen wearing numbers in the 20&#8242;s)</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Walterfootball&#8217;s take (excerpt):</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Jones should be a pass-rushing demon and a phenomenal edge-rusher in the NFL. He fires up field off the snap and is extremely hard for offensive linemen to get a hold of. Jones has good hands to fight off blocks with moves to get around linemen. While he isn&#8217;t a power player, he uses some functional strength along with his athleticism to shed blocks. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Jones is a heat-seeking missile in pursuit. He is great at chasing down quarterbacks and running backs from behind. Jones is always cognizant of the ball and does a great job of slapping it out to force turnovers. He was a sack-fumble machine in college. While Jones does not have blazing speed, he is football fast and that was clear with how he dominated the SEC. </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">There are a few areas Jones needs to improve for the pros. He needs more strength to hold up against runs that come directly at him. That would also help him to avoid some missed tackles. </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Scouts at the East-West Shrine told WalterFootball.com that Jones would </span><a href="http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php">slide on draft day</a><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';"> because it was their belief he would test poorly before the draft and isn&#8217;t a hard worker in the weight room. The scouts said that watching the game tape, Jones is worthy of being a high first-round pick, but they didn&#8217;t feel he will go that high. That prediction was validated in the months to come. Jones declined to work out at the Combine and had an ugly showing at his pro day with a terrible 40-yard dash time between 4.9 and 5.0 seconds. </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">WalterFootball.com spoke with scouts who were in attendance at the pro day, and they said he did well in the linebacker drills, but really struggled in the timed tests. Scouts said that Jones isn&#8217;t a bad teammate or a bad guy, but he isn&#8217;t a guy who coaches will love during the week because he doesn&#8217;t put in a lot of work. However, scouts said they loved the way he showed up on game day. </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Jones could be an elite pass-rusher at the next level. If he goes to a good organization and coaching staff that can motivate him, he could be an absolute force. If Jones lands with a bad team that has frequent coaching changes and instability, there is the potential for him to not pan out. With the workout concerns and the neck injury, he could easily fall to the middle of the first round. </span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">New Orleans at No. 15 makes a lot of sense. The Saints need an edge-rusher for their change to the 3-4. Jones could easily go to New Orleans. <em>Duh</em> (*emphasis added)</span></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2013jjones.php">Jarvis Jones Walterfootball</a></p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">SHELDON RICHARDSON</span></strong></p>
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</span></strong><strong>My take: </strong>I&#8217;m not going to lie. I didn&#8217;t watch him play much this year. I don&#8217;t care if they are now in the SEC, they&#8217;re still Missouri. Once the college bowl season ended and this kid&#8217;s name started popping up everywhere, I decided to watch a little :gamefilm: (aka youtube highlights) on him. What I learned: he&#8217;s strong, he&#8217;s fast, he&#8217;s big, he plays hard in all situations and looks like he could really be the real deal in the NFL. I don&#8217;t care how many successful first round defensive tackles there have been over the years but I would be hesitant to take one if I were Loomis, and I think we all know why. Jonathan Sullivan. God, the ol&#8217; stomach starts turning just at the mention of his name. Ellis lovers will tell you that he was good enough to start for us for five years, so there shouldn&#8217;t be any worries going defensive tackle in the first. Really, Mrs. Ellis? He was the 7th overall pick and couldn&#8217;t even make an impact in a contract year and isn&#8217;t even listed on most free agent trackers. At least he bought some cool cars.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Back to Richardson. I don&#8217;t want him at 15. I just look at the top 32 players in this draft and there has to be someone there at 15 who could be more of an impact than Richardson. Trade back into the 20&#8242;s? OK, then that&#8217;s cool. Just don&#8217;t see Loomis all of a sudden going rogue to trade back. Never has been the man&#8217;s M.O. Would I be swimming in a bottle of bourbon if we did take him at 15? No. There&#8217;s a reason I don&#8217;t work for the Saints and Walter has some pretty good things to say about him.</p>
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<p><strong>Walterfootball&#8217;s take (excerpt):</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Richardson finished the year second on Missouri in tackles with 75. He registered 10.5 tackles for a loss, four sacks, three passes broken up and three forced fumbles. too. Richardson also returned a fumble 60 yards against Kentucky. The Tigers did not qualify for a Bowl game, and the junior quickly declared for the 2013 NFL Draft. He recorded 37 tackles, eight tackles for a loss, two sacks and a forced fumble in 2011. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Missouri used Richardson at defensive end and tackle. He had success as a pass-rusher at end as well as at tackle. Richardson beat Alabama right tackle D.J. Fluker for a sack coming from end, and is a much better pass-rusher than his sack totals indicate. Richardson had 14 tackles against Alabama. He was impressive going against the Crimson Tide&#8217;s superb offensive line. </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Against Kentucky&#8217;s Larry Warford, Richardson didn&#8217;t make plays versus the tough guard but found a way to have a big impact versus the Wildcats&#8217; other linemen. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">Richardson could be a dangerous pass-rusher in the NFL as a three-technique defensive tackle in a 4-3 defense. He also could play end on run downs and move inside to tackle in passing situations for a 4-3 system. Richardson also would fit as a 3-4 defensive end given his length, speed and great motor. He is an impact player who is a three-down player and tone-setter for a defense. Richardson is a fiery player who has some potential to be a leader in the locker room.</span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, 'sans serif';">The Saints would be a great fit for Richardson, too. He could play defensive end in potential running situations and move inside to tackle on pass plays. Richardson would be a huge upgrade for New Orleans&#8217; defensive line, and the team badly needs a player like him on defense.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2013srichardson.php">Sheldon Richardson Walterfootball</a></p>
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<p>Just glad that football is right around the corner. I mean drinking too much on a Sunday just isn&#8217;t the same without some football on tv or at the dome acting a fool.</p>
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<p>Good things to come.</p>
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